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My conversation over at Pastor to Pioneer

Recently, I joined Britton Smith and the podcast over at Pastor to Pioneer. In short, Pastor to Pinoneer a ministry to pastors of legacy churches who find themselves longing to transition to a pioneering ministry that focuses on relational discipleship over programs, and on simple and organic expressions of church rather than the more traditional approach.

We chatted about being a college mascot and making goofy music, but eventually we got into the story of Simple Church Alliance—and even how the arrival of our special needs daughter, Wylie, has played a role in reshaping my understanding of why I’m as passionate about simple church as ever.

Perhaps you would enjoy this conversation and story. You can check out Episode 90 of the Pastor to Pioneer Podcas, entitled “Loving Others, Not Spiritually Managing Others” here:

YouTube: https://youtu.be/aw75c5_KrwU?si=l0M4H0ITYyQUvzfn
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-90-loving-others-not-spiritually-managing-others/id1630998277?i=1000749166013
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/760fyj9dItuxerxtLOWVDB?si=2ded8b8b3eb44c5f

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